Steven Spielberg: "When we first met, which was 1980, he was just finishing the construction of his sets for The Shining. When it was all over and the movie was done, I saw Stanley again. I went to his house for dinner in London, and he asked me, 'How did you like my movie?'"
Steven Spielberg: "Iâd only seen it once, and I didn't love The Shining the first time I saw it. I have since seen The Shining 25 times. It's one of my favorite pictures. Kubrick films tend to grow on you; you have to see them more than once. But the wild thing is, I defy you to name me one Kubrick film that you can turn off once you started. It's impossible. He's got this fail-safe button or something."
Steven Spielberg: "But I didn't like it the first time I saw it. I was telling him all the things I liked about it, and he saw right through me. He said, 'Well, Steven obviously didn't like my picture very much.'"
Steven Spielberg: "I said, 'Well, there's a lot of things I loved about it.' He says, 'Yeah, but there's a lot of things you didn't. Probably more you didn't than you did. So tell me what you didn't like about it.'"
Steven Spielberg: "And I said, 'Well, the thing that I thought... Jack Nicholson, who was a great actor, I thought it was a great performance, but it was almost a Great Kabuki performance. It's almost like Kabuki theater.'"
Stanley Kubrick: "You mean you think Jack went over the top?"
Steven Spielberg: "I said, 'Yeah, I kind of did.' And he said, 'Okay, quickly, without thinking, who are your top favorite actors of all time? I want you to just name off some names.'"
Steven Spielberg: "So I quickly went: Spencer Tracy, Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable. He stopped me. He said, 'Okay, where was James Cagney on that list?'"
Steven Spielberg: "I thought, well, he's up there high. I said, 'Ah, but he's not in the top five.' He said, 'You don't consider James Cagney one of the five best actors around? You see, I do. This is why Jack Nicholson's performance is a great one.'"